Husband's Story

For 4+ years now I have been with the most amazing woman in the world. She has taught me that I am capable of loving more deeply than I ever imagined. She has taken a man who grew up in a family where love and tenderness were rarely displayed and made me into a man who loves nothing more than a kiss, a caress or just a loving look from her. This time has without a doubt been the best of my life. She has made that possible and I am leaving her.

My wife has PMDD. I’m no doctor and there is no test that can 100% certify that she has PMDD, but she does. Every month for a period of 5-10 days, my wife becomes a woman I don’t know. During these times she hates me with a level of emotion and passion that you could never imagine. She says things that cut me to the bone in so many ways I can’t even believe the words could be formed. She does things that no wife should do in a marriage and then a week later its like it never happened to her.

The words she uses are so impressively hurtful it is as if she can look deep inside me and know at that moment what she can say that will inflict the most pain and then she doesn’t just say it, she architects a weapon of words that is beyond belief.

I hate you
F$%# you
F$%^ your kids
I could have so many guys better than you and I will
You violated me
You ruined my life
You are an old, hairy, p%$$y and how would you expect me to ever want you
You are a horrible father
You are worthless

I list those words and it’s almost detrimental to this post. I read them and they don’t sounds that bad. I mean obviously they are not that good but they are not strung together with the clarifying thoughts that she adds and the anger and loathing that she delivers them with. The absolute certainty that I am the one and only thing that she has ever come in contact with that has created all evil and negative in her life.

She has hit me multiple times. She has scared the living crap out of me more than that.

During these times she is often convinced that not only doesn’t she want to be around me or have anything to do with me she truly wants to live a single lady’s life. She wants no responsibilities, no cares, and she loves to flirt and be flirted with. She has been out to a bar and ended up with two guys at one of their houses with just them and her until 5am. She has gone out of town on a whim to visit friends, met a guy and within an hour on the dance floor she is kissing him and then later telling him how much she wants him and how hot he makes her.

She has lied to me repeatedly to cover for herself. Even when she is caught with blatant proof she still lies, then maybe shares a piece of truth surrounded in other lies, and then a bit more truth and more lies over and over again. She lies effortlessly. But, it’s not the type of lies that hurt as bad as the pattern. When she lies it is like pulling teeth to get the truth. Her pattern of lying on top of lies makes it impossible for me to feel like I ever have the truth.

I am abused. Just as I know that my wife has an illness called PMDD I know that I am abused. There is no other way to define it. I have been verbally, physically and emotionally abused for 4+ years. In a way she saw it all along, but without the intensity it deserves. She could so easily forget and ignore what happened. She would often talk with me about getting help. We would go visit doctors together, counselors together and separately, she went to a psychiatrist. Meditation, books, medication it was all tried in one form or another, but a week or two after the incident the priority would fade. Life was good. She loved me deeply and she was happy. Why take medications with all these potential side effects. Why worry. Then it would happen again. Every month.

I love her so much. After each incident I would try to heal. I knew 2.5 years ago that this was tied to her cycle and I read about PMDD and other possibilities. I knew she had an illness. At the time I struggled with the “It’s out of her control” part. I always believed those times of the month opened a door deep inside her and let some really bad things out, but I also believed that if there was nothing behind that door in the first place then there would be nothing to come out. If she didn’t want to be with other guys, if she didn’t think all those things about me, then I didn’t believe that any disease could give her such creative talents.

There were times in the past where my first instinct was flight. As these days started to happen I would try desperately to get away from her. I figured if she wasn’t around me she couldn’t hurt me, but that wasn’t the case. Either she would find other men to flirt with and be around when I wasn’t there or she would come and find me and the delivery was often worse.

I then tried to just respond as calmly as I could. Just simply take her words and let them come. I’m no good at that. I would end up responding to her wrath defending myself. Arguing with her made-up stories of who I was and what I did. Debating all her false perceptions of my love for her and the kids, but this was more than useless. Then she hated me for always arguing and debating. Telling me I just wanted to be right. During these times she is so 100% committed to her hateful opinions of me that no introduction of logic matters. I am the antichrist and she will not have it described otherwise.

I stayed. I loved her and you have to understand the real woman in this story is truly amazing. Her laugh, her smile are from heaven. Her passion for life and for me are boundless and so beautiful. A simple resting of her head on my shoulder is so unbelievably refreshing, soothing, and loving to me that it must add days to my life every time she does it.

I wanted her to get healthy. I begged her to look into medication. We read a book by Dr. Amen that was really great. So many of the stories in there seemed so consistent. I still see his treatment path as very exciting, but it is also very expense due to all the brain scanning required and we are in no state to be able to take that path. I read up a bit more on PMDD and found that usually birth control seemed to be the best medical option. The fear there as in most cases was side effects. My wife used to have migraines and one incident was at a time when she took birth control. So I get the hesitation, but I am willing to try anything. She has tried Zoloft and WellButrin although neither have really had a long-term chance to work. (she has been on WB for 3 months now).

So in December of last year it was really bad and suddenly my reaction wasn’t about finding a cure it was about finding a way to secretly end my life. I don’t say that lightly on this board. I say it for what it is, the truth. I researched and I had a plan. I wasn’t happy with the plan because it was still going to be too obvious and I didn’t want my kids and family left with that knowledge. I just wanted it to be over and me to be out of the cycle. I didn’t have the guts to go through with it and I still to this day wonder if I could. I really doubt it, but the scary thing is I really wanted to. I hung on through January which was an ok month. She often has a mild month after a real doozy. Then in February the hate was back in her eyes maybe stronger than I have seen it for a long time. She loathed me. She hated me and everything connected to me including my kids and the words she used crossed yet another boundary for her.

The snowball of pain, hurt and anguish that had been building for the last 4+ years just rolled right over the top of me and I told her I wanted out.

I sit here today with plans of separation and divorce. Separation and divorce from the most amazing woman I ever hope to meet. A woman I never deserved and now a woman I can’t find the strength to keep.

I don’t write this for advice. I write this as a warning or a wake-up call to any woman out there that has something that resembles PMDD. I know there are many untreated woman in the world, some with symptoms less intense than my wife and maybe some that are worse. Get Help!

The day after you come out of one of these cycles, start to find help that day and don’t let yourself stop. Right it down that first day and staple it to a spot you will see every day. Put it in big screaming letters that you need to get help and you will not let that knowledge drop in priority. Don’t tell yourself “Oh, I feel better, my life is good, it really wasn’t that bad, I’ll be fine”. Go to a doctor and talk to them. If your doctor doesn’t understand PMDD find another doctor. If you have friends or family, talk to them, tell them you need help getting help and ask one of them to be accountable with you.

PMDD is an illness and in many cases it can be treated, but it is a sneaky, crappy little illness in that it hides. It shrinks completely out of site and makes you think you are safe, but if it has come back 4 times it will come back 5 and 6, etc.

If you are in a relationship, it is doing damage. Talk to your partner. Don’t ignore or deny what they are telling you about what you are like. Ask them to be brutally honest and believe them and know that this is an illness and you can get help.

That’s the horrible thing about this for me. There is a cure. I pray my wife finds it. Unfortunately when she does it may be after I have lost her, lost the most amazing woman, lost the chance at the kind of love people search for. I will lose it because I walked away. If I don’t though, then what? The cuts are so deep and the wounds stay so fresh. I know where I was in December. I owe it to my kids and to my self to not be there again. I pray that everyone with PMDD finds an answer. Whatever I did to be at this cross roads in my life I am sorry.

I love you, Baby!

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Apr 09, 2014
Answers? NEW
by: Anonymous

I suffer from PMDD. The description of your wife's behavior is exactly what I experience monthly. It's great we can all share stories, but where are the answers? I've tried various medications, supplements, diet changes and exercise. Nothing has really worked for me. What really sucks is that each time I try something, I have to sit around and wait until my cycle approaches to see if I'm going to hurt the person I love. This whole trial and error routine is getting old for both of us. I really hate the person I become, and my behavior chips away at my boyfriend's heart every month. One day, he'll have nothing left to offer. I really wish someone would share ideas that actually work.

Mar 07, 2014
my testimony NEW
by: narol denison

i will like to share my testimony to you all.i just got married to my husband about a year ago we start having problems at home like we stop sleeping on the same bed,fighting about little things he always comes home late at night,drinking too much and sleeping with other women out side.i have never love any man in my life except him.he is the father of my children and i don't want to loose him because we have worked so hard together to become what we are and have today.few month ago he now decided to live me and the kid,being a single mother can be hard sometimes and so i have nobody to turn to and i was heart broken.i called my mom and explain every thing to her,my mother told me about Dr Jatto how he helped her solve the problem between her and my dad i was surprise about it because they have been without each other for three and a half years and it was like a miracle how they came back to each other.i was directed to Dr Jatto and explain everything to him,so he promise me not to worry that he will cast a spell and make things come back to how we where so much in love again and that it was another female spirit that was controlling my husband.he told me that my problem will be solved within two days if i believe i said OK.So he cast a spell for me and after two days my love came back asking me to forgive him.i Am so happy now. so that why i decided to share my experience with every body that have such problem contact him email.
narol denison


Mar 02, 2014
Your story did help me - bigtime! NEW
by: Anonymous

I will write more details after sometime. But wanted to drop a line to let you know that your story helped me bigtime. My first wife (exW) divorced me after she went in severe mid life crisis. In the process, she destroyed everything.. on emotional, heath, financial front. I took my time (but wanted to believe that everyone is not like that.. which I still believe)....connected with a woman(her exH went on his ramapage, had series of affairs and so on, while my exW had only one affair). Anyways, this new person in my life is in another country at this time but is having PMDD episodes at increasing frequency, duration and intensity. She shows all classic symptoms of denial or being unaware of her actions. She remains very good, kind and jolly for few days of the month.

Regretfully, but also thaknkfully, I am ending the relationship.

Feb 24, 2014
From a PMDD suffer NEW
by: Anonymous

I read your story with tears in my eyes!!
I'm a PMDD suffer.. My symptoms start from the day my period finishes and each of us PMDD suffers symptoms are the same they vary in degree.
I'm married with now 5 grown children!
I have never treated my husband or children as described in your story.. Mine symptoms are turned inward! I have suicidale thoughts for 3 weeks out of every month, so I understand the depth of your pain.. I'm currently tacking Zoladex which mimics a hysterectomy.. If your wife ever comes to her senses & realise what an amazing husband you are .. Zoladex may be worth a try!!
My heart was gladdened to read of how supportive some men are in being responsible for their partners and their relationship!
Thank you to those men, you are a blessing to the females in your life.

Jan 29, 2014
PMDD Sufferer NEW
by: Anonymous

The problem is that we who are sufferring from PMDD are trying all kinds of medication and none of them actually works. It is very sad for us since in reality we cannot do anything to prevent our PMDD

Jan 29, 2014
PMDD Sufferer NEW
by: Anonymous

The problem is that we who are sufferring from PMDD are trying all kinds of medication and none of them actually works. It is very sad for us since in reality we cannot do anything to prevent our PMDD :(

Oct 13, 2013
Sharing the Same Script on PMDD
by: Anonymous

Reading other people's experience is actually very upsetting. Because it echoes precisely my own experience. It seems we are all reading from the same script or copying the same script. I love my girlfriend of 4 years so much because she is the best thing that has happened to me in my life, that is, when she is not under the influence of PMDD.

Months after we met, I began to get the "treatment", which she even some times admitted. At one point, she was cooperative sufficiently to read about PMDD online with me and agreed that she has up to 90% of the listed PMDD symptoms. I began to log the "schedule" quietly just to warn myself of the next episode. As time passes, the episodes duration increased from about 10 days per month to the current 15 to 20 days. It used to start at the flip of a switch about a week before her menstruation and ends 2 to 3 days after. Now, it starts as early as 2 weeks before and ends up to a week after, also at the flip of a switch. The real problem is she refuses to talk about it and even denies it by claiming that I am the problem.

I guess "reality" is what one sees, hears, feels and reacts. If the sh*t hits the fan and lasting up to 3 weeks out of the month, every month, reality is the majority of time and not the one week of each month.

It hurts so much to keep taking it and just as much to think of leaving her because I don't think I can deal with it for the rest of my life if she refuses to admit of having the problem and seek medical attention for the PMDD.

Aug 21, 2013
by: Steven

Thanks for sharing.
I have been with my partner for nearly 4 years who has recently been diagnosed with PMDD and currently taking prozac. So loving sometimes then an absolute horror at others. It led to me being emotionally abused, controlled manipulated, going off work with stress and depressions and also at times considering suicide, it was an absolute trauma.
I used to think she had serious underlying problems from her past as the changes in her personailty where that great, it took her a long time to get diagnosed but when she did everything clicked into place. But the damage done from the rages and the behaviour have cut deep.
Although she is helping herself and tackling it really hard and trying, her latest episode cut deep again and I dont think I can support her anymore.
I feel guitly at this but I have a son who I am really close to and who I have to consider how this will affect him.
It breaks my heart as she is a lovely lass in most other ways and she has been a breath of fresh air in my life that I have never experienced before.
But the manic angry raging episodes have just chipped away at me and our relationship. I dont deserve the treatment.
At least she knows what it is now, and I am wiser to what it is that these poor women suffer. I admire her approach to tackling it and her apologising to me but I cant go on.
It has led to me too having to give up for my own sanity the women that I loved.

Jul 25, 2013
Thanks for sharing
by: Paul

I came across your story when looking for my own answers to this terrible disorder. It provides comfort to know that I am not alone, that someone else experiences the same pain, the same confusion, the same suicidal thoughts. Only those that have a partner with pmdd know it is real, it is not normal pms or signs of an underlying mental disorder. About a week before my wife has her period she changes into a monster. I have learnt to lay low during this time but sometimes I cannot help myself and argue back though later I wish I hadn't. She will fly into a rage, punch walls, head but walls, hit me, bite me and not give a thought as to what this might be doing to the three children we share. Tonight my 10 month old screamed as I put her down to sleep after my wife had another episode, I had to hold her until she fell asleep. I've been living with this for seven years and I am still no closer to finding the answers I seek. What gets me the most is that after she gets her period all is forgotten and she is back to her sweet self, unaware that she has chipped away a little bit more at my heart. Always I remember the look in her eyes when she is in a rage, the complete and utter hatred. Who do you talk to when you have a partner like this? It would be easier to talk to friends and family if you didn't still love them, but if you still do you know that telling them will only make them hate the one you love. I guess that is why we end up posting on a forum, no one except those suffering in a relationship with truly understand. Thanks again for the story.

Apr 29, 2013
ur comments hit home for me
by: Anonymous

ur experience is right on. my wife is the most beautiful person I have ever met. I was searching for someone and for years I couldn't find a connection. within one day of contact with her we connected in a way I never though possible.. three months into our marriage we decided to have a baby. at that point she changed. she doesn't see it or chooses not to see what she did to us. Her actions have ruined us. her anger and hatred have pushed us so far apart. now every month she hates me more and more. Ive tried to get help from friends but know one believes me as she acts different in front of people. I honestly believe that sooner or later I may have to leave to save myself. I just cant see how someone could leave the one that they love so much but to stay with all the hate how can that be good for our two boys. How can u love someone so much and be so alone...? with tears I pray for relief...

Jan 18, 2012
So Sorry
by: VickyCA

I am so, so very sorry for you and your wife. PMDD hurts bad! Everyone involved, I know I have it. You are right, there is no easy answer for it.
After years of suffering from it, I finally found enough relieve through medications (prozac & the pill) to manage my illness although it is at a great cost. I am extremely fatigued for two weeks a month and make myself stay resting and away from others if I feel I will not be able to control myself. Thankfully, I have a wonder, supportive husband and my children are grown and at college so it makes doing this even possible. There are side effects to the medications and they can vary from person to person. I am allergic to the Prozac and constantly itch from it over my entire body. I lost half of my hair and my face broke out from the pill. I am due to go off of these meds. sometime this year since I will be turning 55 yrs. It is the only way to see if I am going through or done with menopause. I am afraid. I don't ever want to return to the horrors I had to endure before medications. You can be sure if I have problems I will be down at that doctors office everyday until I get want I need to remain stable. My husband is a bit leery of me going off the meds. too. Understandably, he suffered a lot too!

While I feel really bad for your wife, you are doing the right thing for yourself and your children to keep healthy. You see, I know, I grew up with a Mom who had PMDD. It wasn't diagnosed back then and I just knew she was crazy and abusive emotionally to her husbands (she was married 5 times) and us kids, especially me, I was the oldest of four. The moment I figured out what was wrong with me I sat down and wrote her a long letter explaining that I was sure she had the same thing. Never heard back from her. So sad...

Any way, grieve, let it go, move on, and be encouraged for saving yourself and your children.

My prayers are with you, your wife and your poor (probably confused) children.


Jan 17, 2012
Nearly had Enough
by: Aidan

I read your amasing story with tears in my eyes, although my partner is not quite as bad as yours.

I'm in a relationship with an amasing woman also, or was, but this monthly uproar has, I think killed the love we once shared.

In the early years I tried to get help but she never acepted there was a problem, "it was always something I did" and then when it was over she was so sorry and could never live without me.... and life was great until the next time, then WHAM out of the blue it all started again.

Right now i feel I've had enough, The low's are getting lower and there are no high's, Our relationship has lasted 9yrs and I cant see there being 10, maybe when she comes out of it this time I'll feel diferent.

Jan 03, 2012
by: Anonymous

hey i went through the same thing, she left me (leaving my 3 kids behind with me aswell) one morning, called that night said it was over, i could have the kids etc. she abused me for years, but everything was my fault and she really had me believing i was crazy, after a year she brought me to court for custody, she wanted my kids so she could get welfare, i was outside the court house she said give me 10,000.00 and you can have them, i didnt have the money and didnt want to not have my kids mother out of their life anyway, i gave in and gave her placement but she has 3days visitation and i 4 days, its been 4 years since shes out of my life,my 12 yr old daughter doesnt want anything to do with her and wont go back to her house, this is on her own out of nowhere, she says her mother is scary, threatening, always screaming at her and etc. i got the police involved for reports, and my lawyer for custody hearing, ts never over gees this women made me miserable for years and now my kids are feeling it too. i was devastated when she left, i found someone else a week after because i know i needed to be busy meet new people and etc, or i would become depressed and lose it.. you know, i've never been so happy in all my life, i think i lied to myself about loving her, it was all about my kids and i tried so hard, my new wife is completely normal and i know what love is and what it should be, i look back and cant believe all the time that i wasted i never imagined a normal life or really being with someone who loved me, i thought i had that already.. i'm glad she left, i'm glad my daughter now sees her and wont fall into the trap i did, my kids are everything, my ex is a crazy evil sycophantic lunatic who cares for noone but herself, i feel bad/hurt for my kids.. best thing in the world for all of you out there dealing with a person of this type is to get away far far away be strong and dont look back. theres only so many years in your life dont waste them be happy. anyone in rhode island want to hang out have a coffe or something i'm avail, good luck everyone..

Nov 22, 2011
Sad Tale
by: Basslet

I hope you are in a better space somehow, however things turned.

Much of your story is eerily familiar, and though I know awareness of PMDD in general needs elevating, attention to the effect on relationships seems sorely lacking.

I made it about 2 years with my lovely girlfriend before things imploded in the midst of PMDD-fueled rage.

The actual torment experienced as you listen to the person you love most detail the countless ways in which your are the evil destroyer of all things good is bad enough. I mean, really imagine it. Imagine the person you love most, who half of the time seems to love you too. And then imagine that person saying to you the worst, most mean-spirited, vile things you can imagine.

But unlike the run of the mill bad behavior that crops up in all relationships and is smoothed over through discussion and apology, there will be no apology here. She may not remember, or may not want to remember, the things she said and did. You will apologize for the smallest of offenses, or non-offenses. Like bringing her coffee in the morning like all other days, but on one day it is a sign of your stalking tendencies, for which you are sorry. She will not apologize for yelling, hitting, throwing, or declaring her hate for you.

And also imagine how this erodes your ability to share intimate information even when she is acting normal. Because you know that whatever you reveal about your inner life will be used as ammunition against you. Whatever you declare an interest in or appreciation for will be turned into an object of her hatred when the PMDD rolls 'round. Your hardships, your triumphs, your hopes, your dreams, your family, your pet will all become part of her scorn.

And who are you going to confide in about this? The people you mutually know likely do not see this side of her. And would you really want to tell them about it?

Jun 27, 2011
Thanks You
by: Anonymous

Thanks for your information. i have no idea what is PMDD in my entire life until i'm with my girlfriend. She is having hard time with PMDD(not 100% sure) It happens like all the sudden she turns into different person. Just in a day or two, she completely ignore me and lost contact with me for few days. At first, i was like... what's going on. Did i do something wrong or she don't want to be with me. It happen almost every month for few days. In this few days, i wasn't able to sleep and eat. One time i lost like 10 lbs in that weeks and i had tears in my eyes and rolling on bed sleeplessly. i was worrying her so much, i scare she will do something to hurt herself. She've been diet and go to gym, but i'm not sure it really working or not. I did pray for her everyday and hope God to let her live without depression. I will supporting her no matter what and i will have to learn more about this whole PMDD. Thanks for your story and i'm sorry to hear about it. I do wish you the best of this world. Take Care.

May 25, 2011
PMDD Cure?
by: VickyCA

I have been married 26 yrs. and have suffered from PMDD for 34 yrs. I am 53 yrs, old and the symptoms began when I was 19 yrs. old. My husband & I have beem through a lot of suffering from this illness. I am so sorry for your loss with the love of your life, your wife. You described the illness & effects very well. I did not find any relief until I gave in and went the traditional medicine route. Well it does help some, it does not take away all of the illness! I wished it did. I came to a point that the suffering became so extreme, I would rather risk shortening the length or quality of my life with medicines, then live this way any longer. If you know of a cure, please let those of us who suffer know what it is. All of my research over the past 28 yrs. (when I first pinned a name on this hedious tormentor) has shown there is no absolute cure or treatment, only treatment of symptoms and that is with moderate success. Most of us do not have the funds to go to the top specialist in the country to have numerous tests done and continuous personalized monitoring done of our hormone levels and changes. Therefore, the middle of the road available hep for right now is our local traditional doctor where the standard treatment is an antidepressant along with birth control pills. The purpose of the birth control pills is two fold. One, it lets a woman plan her life around "that time." And secondly, it contains the hormones needed to bring "some" relief.
I am, and will continue to look for the cure, help or answer to this suffering. Until then, all we can do is pursue the sliver of answers we do know help some i.e. nutrition, exercise, stress avoidance, antidepressant, birth control pills, a lot of rest, and fighting to remember that those feeling will go away after the menestration cycle and that this hedious monster that comes to torment is not the real me.


May 17, 2011
What an impact
by: Anonymous

After reading this I cried. I am so sorry for what you have to go through.

Oddly, I just came across your post after emailing someone about PMDD. I recently by own recognition realize the impact this might have on someone, and your post hit home.

I never thought this disorder would cause this much of severity in a relationship. I appreciate your brutal honesty, but it was frightening to see some of your wife's behavior is also some of my own.

The email I just sent was to one of my staff. It was embarrassing, and can't even comprehend if it was at all appropriate to do (in a cycle right now), but I felt I had to do something. I just hope the email I sent doesn't fall on deaf ears.

By no means do I want to justify the way I behave, but to give insight as to why I may act the way I do. I know lots don't think of this as a credible disorder. I commend you in believing it indeed is, and you realize the person we become, isn't the actual person we are.

Thanks again, and my thoughts with you.

May 01, 2011
your post...
by: grateful

What an impact your story had on me. I am speechless and sorry and grateful for your ability to share.

Apr 28, 2011
Thank you!
by: Laina

Your story is heartwrenching... I am SO very sorry you are going through this. I haven't been diagnosed with PMDD, but I've always struggled with depression and anxiety right around my period, and I seem to have all the earmark signs. This past cycle was the worst yet. I sent my husband (my soulmate) a suicide letter after I'd walked out of our apartment. He didn't know where I was, what I was doing, nothing.

I didn't really want to kill myself, but I sure as hell didn't feel like living anymore--not with the way I'd felt all week at least... Your story really helped me realize that this illness doesn't just affect ME, it affects EVERYONE around me, too.

I am SO glad you didn't choose to end your life. I am sure you love your wife--despite the many things she has done to hurt you. And I'm sure she loves you, too. But SHE needs to get her own help. You can't remain the whipping boy when she gets into her "Mr. Hyde" modes. Keep YOURSELF healthy by getting out of the situation, and maybe she'll realize what she's lost because of her inability to admit that she DOES have a problem. You can't just treat people like shit and expect them to get over it when you feel better... I understand that, and I still have to eat crow once I've "come to my senses". I truly hope your wife does too.

Stay strong. You will survive this. I am praying for you and the many other men like you. God bless.

Feb 24, 2011
Very powerful story
by: Kristin

Hi. I just wanted to tell you how powerful & heartfelt your email was. Your words express very clearly the pain you've experienced.
Thank you for taking the time to write that & sharing. I know it will help someone else.

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